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I had the honor of interviewing PBL expert Trevor Muir on what it means to get started with PBL. Check out the podcast below.

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About Trevor Muir

Trevor is a teacher, author, and speaker. He is the author of the books The Epic Classroom and The Collaborative Classroom. Trevor is an adjunct professor at Grand Valley State University, was a national faculty member for the Buck Institute for Education, and is one of the Andrew Gomez Dream Foundation speakers. His work has been featured in the Huffington Post, Edutopia, EdWeek, and WeAreTeachers. He gave a TED Talk titled, “School Should Take Place in the Real World,” at TEDxSanAntonio. Trevor’s Facebook page, The Epic Classroom, has inspiring videos that have been viewed over 30 million times. At the heart of Trevor’s work is the conviction that every student has the potential for greatness, and every teacher can be equipped to unlock that potential.


John Spencer

My goal is simple. I want to make something each day. Sometimes I make things. Sometimes I make a difference. On a good day, I get to do both.More about me


  • Sue O'Malley says:

    Fantastic! Thank you for the inspiration and clarification. You have given me so many analogies to help demystify PBL for my staff!

  • JO says:

    I’m not even sure how I found my way to this, but it’s awesome – thank you.
    So interesting, so many learnings passed on that we could ALL learn from, whatever our profession or outlook.
    I’m currently a mature student (and a parent) – studying a masters (in Innovation, Creativity & Leadership@ Bayes Business School/ UK) – and this has offered so many directly applicable insights.
    – Into the lessons we could and should be learning from how kids really learn/ how they get inspired/ how we can support their growth and curiosity and development
    -into the power of stories but with direct applicability/ made personal FOR the learner and by the learner (not just telling them abstract stories alone)
    -the importance of authenticity
    -the power and importance of ‘real world’ experiential learning – with social impact or good (= deeper connection for the learner)
    This could be a Leadership 101.
    thank you!

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